and between the laws of war. they haven't drawn that circle and in part because i think it is confused in their mind and this is the approach the administration has decided to take. you remember back during the campaign the, the 2008 campaign, the president distinguished himself from his predecessor, george w. bush by saying in effect, we are going to take a law enforcement approach to wars. these issues aren't as clear when you don't make those kind of distinctions. bill: there was one scenario that ted cruz cruz threw out, the republican from texas, american having coffee in a coffee shop and a starbucks, whether or not that was considered an imminent threat. so that phrase, imminent threat, seemed to be stressed throughout this entire argument. has that been defined clearly? >> it did, it is at the center of this and in a sense we're back where we were literally ten years ago when we were debating the iraq war and the question of an imminent threat. rand paul yesterday spoke to this he talked about iraq and sa